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                           IN THIS ISSUE

                             EDITORIAL

                        TIPS AND TECHNIQUES
    "Information on tap - Web resources on the water industry"
                           By Susan Alcock

                             BOOKSHELF
                   "Managing in the New Economy"
                     Reviewed by Simon Collery

                          FEATURE ARTICLE
                      "Electronic Communities"
                            By Huw Owen

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                             EDITORIAL

With the publication of this, our 50th issue, we can now proudly 
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We bring you another cosmopolitan issue today, with detailed articles
on finding water resources on the Web, creating and using electronic 
communities, and a review of a book containing a range of articles 
by management gurus covering how to manage in the new economy. I've
also summarised the main topics at the Bar as usual, and so there
really should be something for everyone.

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                        TIPS AND TECHNIQUES

    "Information on tap - Web resources on the water industry"
                           By Susan Alcock

When I first started gathering links for my own intranet pages (which
are not available over the Internet), it was very much a case of
"Water, water everywhere...". I really didn't know where to start. But
once I found the following two main sites with excellent links, I was
off! The Utility Connection <http://www.utilityconnection.com/> and
The American Water Works Association 
<http://www.awwa.org/asp/links.asp> both have superb listings, and,
although there is much overlap, neither lists exactly the same sites
as the other.

The USA, with its mass of individual water and wastewater utilities,
has a vast listing, but increasingly countries worldwide are
requesting links. These two sites are superb resources and a good
place to start looking for information you might require. They include
information on water and wastewater utilities, water institutions and
research organisations, a whole lot of sites which include water or
environmental news or magazines and various other water information
sites. As most researchers know, finding sites with excellent links
pages is one of the best ways of searching the Internet. Other good
lists of water links are: The WaterLibrarian's Homepage
<http://www.wco.com/~rteeter/waterlib.html>;
Water Links, part of the African Water Page
<http://www.sn.apc.org/afwater/links.htm>; 
WetList <http://www.uwin.siu.edu/WaterSites/> from the Universities
Water Information Network; Hydrology Web
<http://terrassa.pnl.gov:2080/EESC/resourcelist/hydrology.html> and
Lifewater Canada <http://www.lifewater.ca/links.htm>.

Water research institutions abound, both internationally and within
individual countries. Two useful sites are those of The Water
Environment Federation <http://www.wef.org/> and The Water Environment
Research Foundation <http://www.werf.org/>. UK sites include the
Foundation for Water Research (FWR) <http://www.atlas.co.uk/listons/>
and the Water Research Centre (WRc) <http://www.wrcplc.co.uk/>.

Legislation is another area which is of relevance, and it is always a
problem to find both current information and to be able to know when
this information is updated. The Stationery Office in London
<http://www.tsonline.co.uk/> puts its legislation freely available
online, and The Daily List, available through this site, can be viewed
regularly to pick up on new publications. Unfortunately Acts
<http://www.hmso.gov.uk/acts.htm> can only be viewed in full back to
1996, and Statutory Instruments <http://www.hmso.gov.uk/stat.htm> back
to 1997. European Directives which deal with water, waste and other
environmental issues can be found within the Europa site
<http://europa.eu.int/eur-lex/en/lif/ind/en_analytical_index_15.html>.
American legislation can be accessed on the Environmental Protection
Agency (EPA) site <http://www.epa.gov/epahome/rules.html>.

Regulatory issues dealing with water and wastewater are essential. In
the UK, The Office of Water Services (OFWAT)
<http://www.open.gov.uk/ofwat/> and the Drinking Water Inspectorate
(DWI) <http://www.dwi.detr.gov.uk/h2oinfo.htm> have a wide range of
useful and current information on their sites.

Specialised magazines and news published on the web are other rich
sources of information. Some useful ones are:

e. water <http://www.global-utilities.com/water/>, WaterWorld, Water &
Wastewater International and Worldwide Waste Management
<http://www.wwinternational.com/> , and Water Online
<http://www.wateronline.com/content/homepage/>. Directories and
details of suppliers are often available on these sites.

With privatisation in some countries (especially the UK), the water
industry is increasingly a business and details of companies, together
with the current share price of company stock, is regularly required.
One way of finding UK information is by going to the following site -
UK Equities Direct <http://www.hemscott.com/equities/>, clicking on
"Companies" and then entering the company name to check the latest
figures. The national association for the UK's water suppliers, Water
UK, can be viewed at its site <http://www.water.org.uk/>. Details and
links to the privatised UK water companies will be found here.

One of the areas which receives a lot of press coverage in Britain is
the quality and standard of the beaches, especially in view of the
various clean-up schemes by the water companies, and the looming
European Directive deadlines. Details of the annual Good Beach Guide
can be found on the Marine Conservation Society's site
<http://www.mcsuk.mcmail.com/> and the Environment Agency (EA)
<http://www.environment-agency.gov.uk/> has a wealth of information 
on its testing of bathing water quality (tip: make sure to click all 
the links to find the details).

Campaigns to clean up the water are important too, and some of the
main UK campaigns are: Bag it & Bin It National Campaign
<http://www.wsa.co.uk/>; Surfers Against Sewage <http://sas.org.uk/>;
Tidy Britain Group <http://www.tidybritain.org.uk/> and WaterWatch
<http://www.waterwatch.org.uk/>.

The provision of clean drinking water and adequate sanitation for
developing countries and countries in need of assistance after natural
or other disasters is supported by a number of specific charities. In
the UK WaterAid <http://www.wateraid.org.uk/> is the main organisation,
but others such as American Water Relief <http://www.forcomm.net/awr/>,
Water Partners International <http://www.water.org/>, Water for People
<http://www.water4people.org/> and Lifewater International
<http://www.lifewater.org/> provide details of their programmes
worldwide.

Environmental information is linked closely with water resources, and
sites such as those of the (UK) Environment Agency (EA)
<http://www.environment-agency.gov.uk/>, the (UK) Department of the
Environment, Transport and the Regions <http://www.detr.gov.uk/>, the
US Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) <http://www.epa.gov/> and the
European Environment Agency <http://www.eea.eu.int/> provide
invaluable additional information on water quality and waste
management. Environmental Data Services (ENDS) <http://www.ends.co.uk/>
has an excellent site which fully complements its paper publications, 
and is well worth bookmarking.

On the whole most water sites can be accessed by following links from
one of the sites mentioned above. Experience, as always, will show
which sites are of most relevance and/or importance. Nothing remains
static, and new sites are added regularly, but with luck, those
dedicated people creating lists of links will add them to their sites
for the rest of us to find.

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Susan Alcock (BA, Dip Lib, MSLS, MIInfSc) was born in Zimbabwe and was
educated there, in South Africa and the USA. She worked at the
University of Zimbabwe <http://www.uz.ac.zw> first as a Map Librarian
and then as a Medical Librarian. In 1986, she emigrated with her young
family to England and has been Librarian at South West Water 
<http://www.pennon-group.co.uk> in Exeter, Devon since 1989. She has
set up a very detailed Intranet site within her company, and
thoroughly enjoys web-searching. Sue can be contacted by email:
<salcock@south-west-water.co.uk>.

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                   "Managing in the New Economy"
                     Reviewed by Simon Collery

This book looks at first like a collection of articles by different 
people, and edited by Joan Magretta.  However, it is really a 
collaborative work by many hands, arranged and directed by Magretta.

In the introduction the question 'Is there a new economy?' is posed.
Then various aspects of the job of managing, each of which has an 
article to itself, are examined.  The numerous ways in which managing
has changed are underlined.  And the answer is that there is a new 
economy, but that doesn't mean that everything has changed in 
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There is an executive summary of each article at the end of the book, 
and a short biography of each collaborator.

Instead of getting a set of Frequently Asked Questions and their 
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Simon Collery has been involved in editorial and research work for 
the electronic media for a number of years, working for AND Data 
Solutions, Oxford, and the Oxford English Dictionary Project.  One of 
his primary interests is the use of the Internet as a serious 
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                          FEATURE ARTICLE

                      "Electronic Communities"
                            By Huw Owen

They say that you ought to start any diatribe by raising a smile with
your audience. So, to fulfil this obligation, and to practice what I
preach, anybody in need of a good laugh can mail me privately, and
I've got a cracking joke I can mail back to you!

The intention here is to skim some peaks, and provide some thought
provoking stimulus for how Electronic communities can be harnessed
positively by those who wish to manipulate them. I make no apology for
not digging as deeply into any of these topics that they all, in their
own right, deserve. Nor do I make any apology for failing to push the
boundaries of understanding for those who are already fully exploiting
the power of Electronic communities. This is nothing more than a
whistle stop tour of some of the areas that we at BBC Resources are
exploring with some of our partners at this exciting stage in the
evolution of the electronic community.

So, you're an MD of a small woollen mill down in rural West Wales. For
years, your business has ticked along nicely supplying local craft
shops and half a dozen local retailers. Your product line evolves
iteratively, because you are physically so close to your customer base
that you are able to get constant feedback of what is and what isn't
selling, so modifications and new lines are based on a fairly dynamic
response to market needs.

Or maybe you're a social worker based in Leeds. You have a small
circle of peers with whom you regularly meet both formally and
informally, and you are able to swap experiences about some of the
more difficult cases you are dealing with, which helps you become more
effective in your job. A couple of times a year, you go to
Conferences, get inspired by a speaker, and may even ask that speaker
a question. You'll probably never get any quality time with that
speaker ever again though. And the guy you meet at the bar one evening
comes from Belfast - he does a similar job to you, in a similar, inner
city environment. You hit it off, and become best mates for two days -
but he goes back to Belfast, you go back to Leeds, and gradually the
phone calls and letters taper off.... two opportunities for positive
networking have disappeared almost as quickly as they emerged.

You might even be a contract engineering worker in Saudi Arabia - your
contract is coming to an end, and you want to move back to the UK.
You've got no real access to the job market, and you're also desperate
to catch up with the fortunes of your home town football club,
Southampton AFC. Your mum sends you out the Sunday Papers
occasionally, but you're not really in touch with things.....

Or you could be a student, a health worker, a farmer, an assembly
worker in a factory, a lecturer,  unemployed - finding people, and
networks, who can help you get where you want is suddenly becoming a
whole new ball game altogether !

Whilst a world of opportunity might only be a modem connection away,
the path to Nirvana, as ever, is littered with obstacles; how do
"publishers" target their specific audiences, how can standards of
confidentiality and morality be safeguarded, how do individuals access
the E Communities that can really add value to their lives, how can
"access for all" be hastened, and how are the potentially pernicious
social side effects of the electronic society to be properly
controlled ?

Therefore, there are pragmatic as well as social/ ethical challenges
ahead. Whilst there are others far better qualified than me to comment
on the sociological implications, there are a number of the practical
implementation issues which we at BBC Resources are already forging
ahead with;

Marketing/ Increasing traffic ;

Whilst traditional, segmentation marketing disciplines can be applied
to this field, there are a number of prima facie contradictions in
terms of pursuing just these methods; the bottom line being, if the
individual members of your target audience aren't on the net - they're
not going to get your message !

Thus, you have the dual challenge of finding targets who are on the
net, and the re-education of those who are not (yet !). On
a pragmatic level therefore, a number of intuitive, common sense
approaches can be the most effective marketing that you do. Are there
existing net "communities" with an affinity to your specific area of
interest ? It can take a lot of time searching, and even more time and
persuasion to convert new community members, but it can be one of the
most rewarding avenues for customer acquisition.

Is there a specific geographic, corporate or community framework,
which already has a substantial amount of traffic on an existing
network ? It could well be a sports club site, an existing company
intranet site or a local Amateur theatrical site - all of which could
be harnessed to an affiliated interest group.

When all is said and done, the most effective form of marketing using
any platform, and in any geo-demographic situation, is by word of
mouth, or direct reference - harnessing an existing "community" to the
growth of a new one.

The best way, of course, to get a positive word of mouth reference is
to give the consumer a positive buying experience - this is a truism
whether we're talking of white goods, brown goods, eclectic services -
or participation in an Electronic Community !

What unique experiences, with reference to the scenarios given
earlier, can people expect when they are part of an E Community ?

Personally, I have been involved in threads ranging from the
difficulties of parenthood to managing difficult employees/ situations
to personal identity. I have been involved in discussions which have
helped community members (in their own words) to recover from
bereavement, the trauma of rape and of being mugged - this next bit is
a "cut and paste" from the outcome of the latter case - "thanks guys,
these last couple of weeks have been hell. You are the only people
I've been able to talk to about it. I've just been down to the shops -
the first time I've been out in a fortnight - and I'm back, and I'm OK
- I couldn't have done this without you".  Powerful stuff.


The one thing that strikes me about these Electronic conversations are
the level of honesty and openness that occurs in them - is it the
anonymity, above all else, which allows this ? Or is it the unique
pace at which responses can be made - writing a letter, a report or a
memo always allows the author time to think, edit, re-draft and
consider before finally committing the communication - direct speech
on the other hand allows no editorial "come back" for the "author" - E
Mail has the immediacy of direct speech, but it also has a small time
lapse for reflection - and it can also have a short time lapse for
response - again, a completely different time scale to either
traditional methods of written and verbal communication.

All in all, we still have a lot to learn about the potential power of
Electronic communities - but for sure they are exciting, they are
different, they are with us to stay - and they are full to the brim of
potential !

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BBC Resources are a wholly owned subsidiary of the BBC, providing
production facilities and solutions to both broadcast and corporate

customers. The growth of "the interactive industry" over the past few
years has allowed BBC Resources to develop their core interactive
skills, seen on your television screen for years, to service this new
industry. They act as consultants on large, multinational projects -
and they also work with small, local businesses to help them "get on
the web" in the most effective manner. For more information, contact
Huw Owen at <huw.owen@bbc.co.uk> or Peter Warren at
<peter.warren@bbc.co.uk>.

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British books - link to Amazon and question
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National contact directory for public services
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  Announcement of this experimental directory from the Cabinet Office
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Marketing contacts
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The impact and critical success factors for on-line trading
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  Request for information on the above

Filtering Internet access in schools, colleges and libraries
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  Discussion, sites, and full results of the informal survey

VAT on books supplied to EU addresses
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  Discussion of the addition of 25% by Amazon on orders to Sweden

University for Industry
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  Are unrelated local Learning Centre initiatives going to support the
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How does one source email addresses for a motor cycle touring site?
  http://www.freepint.co.uk/cgi-bin/webbbs/config.pl?read=1086

Comprehensive list/directory of UK PC dealers and resellers needed
  http://www.freepint.co.uk/cgi-bin/webbbs/config.pl?read=1089

Search for a particular book (by Leontiev)
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  With links to university library catalogues

Domain Names: rights of ".com" ownership
  http://www.freepint.co.uk/cgi-bin/webbbs/config.pl?read=1094
  Discussion on whether owning a ".com" domain gives legal rights to 
  all other domain endings

Finding out about new ".com" companies
  http://www.freepint.co.uk/cgi-bin/webbbs/config.pl?read=1102
  Discussion of why; site suggestion; any UK sites?

Guttering - research questions
  http://www.freepint.co.uk/cgi-bin/webbbs/config.pl?read=1108
  When first used? Purpose? Roof design changed? Pointers welcomed

Online groceries - request for opinions for article
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  What is your favourite online supermarket? What is the UK situation?

Directors and shareholders
  http://www.freepint.co.uk/cgi-bin/webbbs/config.pl?read=1115
  Where to get a list of directors and shareholders for a UK company?

Web site promotion
  http://www.freepint.co.uk/cgi-bin/webbbs/config.pl?read=1121
  Lots of tips and pointers for promoting your site for free

Search engine promotion
  http://www.freepint.co.uk/cgi-bin/webbbs/config.pl?read=1124
  Which is best: register lots of domains or create large site?

Web discussion software and site hosting
  http://www.freepint.co.uk/cgi-bin/webbbs/config.pl?read=1125
  Any thoughts or suggestions on software and hosts?

Domain names for 5 pounds?
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Meta Site for Fund Management
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  Sharing an invaluable categorised links site

Finding search engines with a UK bias
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Starting an Internet business
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  Where does a Net newcomer find out all about this?

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