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Free Pint "Helping 25,000 people use the Web for their work" http://www.freepint.co.uk/ ISSN 1460-7239 9th September 1999 #45 > = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = IN THIS ISSUE EDITORIAL TIPS AND TECHNIQUES "File finding, file filing" By Richard Eskins BOOKSHELF "The Battle of the Portals" Reviewed by Phil Bradley FEATURE ARTICLE "Intranets and extranets" By Martin White FREE PINT FEEDBACK AND BAR "Latest from the Free Pint Bar" "RE: Web catalogue data protection enquiry" "RE: Interview: Reva Basch, Super Searcher" FREE PINT FORTHCOMING ARTICLES CONTACT INFORMATION ONLINE VERSION WITH ACTIVATED HYPERLINKS http://www.freepint.co.uk/issues/090999.htm > = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = The e-business [99] event is almost us upon with registration for free passes closing at the end of the week. The three day event which starts at the NEC on the 14th of September features stands from Microsoft, ICL, Compaq, BT, Royal Mail and 110 other specialists. Other highlights include, the free seminar and case study programmes featuring Heinz, Hamleys, currantbun.com and Toyota and a major Remote working feature. Register online at http://www.redman.co.uk or call 01923 261663 for your free delegate pass. > = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = [re451] BOOK YOUR ADVERT IN THE FREE PINT NEWSLETTER AND ON THE WEB SITE http://www.freepint.co.uk/advert.htm > = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = EDITORIAL We now have 25,000 subscribers ... and virtually all thanks to word-of-mouth recommendation. So a BIG THANK YOU to all readers for spreading the word so far and wide. We're out and about a lot at the moment doing our bit to spread the word also. We have a stand at the e-business [99] show at the Birmingham NEC next week (14th-16th September) so if you want to support us by popping in and saying "Hi" then reserve your free ticket at http://www.redman.co.uk/. It promises to be a great show. If you've ever tried to locate files on the Web (such as program updates) then you'll love our Tips article in this issue. This is then followed by a great review of where to find resources on the Web about Intranets, from a popular regular contributor to Free Pint and seasoned Intranet professional. The Free Pint Bar http://www.freepint.co.uk/bar is really buzzing with lots of interaction and research questions. I've summarised the latest postings in the Feedback section along with a couple of letters from readers. Whenever people write to me now I try and encourage them to use the Bar - that way they can often get an immediate response (sometimes within minutes!). If you enjoy this issue then please do pass it on to someone else ... Kind regards, William PS: If you haven't yet signed up for the Bar Digest (an email every other day with the latest postings from the Bar) then send a blank email to digest@freepint.co.uk. William Hann BSc MIInfSc, Managing Editor e: william@freepint.co.uk w: http://www.freepint.co.uk/ t: +44 (0)1784 455435 f: +44 (0)1784 455436 "Free Pint" is a trademark of Willco Limited http://www.willco.co.uk/ > = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = ONLINE INFORMATION 99 CONFERENCE PROGRAMME ANNOUNCED The Online Information 99 conference offers you the chance to hear 125 experts from 20 countries give their insights into the latest developments in the information industry. No other conference can provide the same concentration of expertise under one roof. For full programme details and online registration visit http://www.online-information.co.uk/ > = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =[li45x] FREE PINT GUIDE http://www.freepint.co.uk/guide Visit our Yahoo!-like index to all past Free Pint issues and book reviews, as well as many resources for Webmasters and Searchers alike > = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = TIPS AND TECHNIQUES "File finding, file filing" By Richard Eskins Since the creation of Free Pint I've been hoping to write an article that would share my Internet skills with the world! The stumbling block has always been what to write. The biggest fear is preaching to the converted, talking to my peers about a subject that they know far more about than I. And of course there is the age old problem of actually doing it! Anyway, here I am at last in print (if it gets past the editor) and resigned to the fact that some of you may know all that I am about to divulge, but hopefully there are some of you to whom this may be of help. Perhaps those in the know can add their advice in the Free Pint Bar http://www.freepint.co.uk/bar. File finding, what do I mean. I'm talking about the type of files that keep your computer going, not the type of files that contain documents. I'm talking drivers for video cards, drivers for sound cards, missing files for your operating system etc. (OK Mac people, I'm talking PC here, but the basics are the same when that USB driver still doesn't work on that G3 and Epson printer). But hold on you say, is this all too techie. Well no. This is about searching, what you do with the files is up to you. Either get techie yourself or call on a friend. Ok, so finding these files. Where, well on the Web of course. Why? Well I'll give you a couple of examples. Example one; a couple of weeks ago I was configuring a new PC for a friend. The PC thoughtfully came with a CD-ROM with all the drivers for sound, video etc. Unfortunately either the drivers didn't work, or they weren't where they should have been on the CD-ROM. Second example; installing a printer on a PC, no disks with the drivers available, the drivers are on the NT CD-ROM, no CD-ROM drive! I could go on, but I'll step back and go through my personal approach to finding the files. Before we do let's remember in days gone by that you would wait and make sure that you had the files in a format that you could use (on a floppy?). You would install them and if they didn't work you would approach the manufacturer for possible updates. Now on the Web I have a variety of tactics. Since I do this quite frequently I have bookmarks. Favourites have to be sites like http://www.drivershq.com/, http://www.windrivers.com/ and http://www.winfiles.com/drivers/. These sites tend to let you choose what you are looking for, drivers for a modem, video card etc. Then they let you dig for the manufacturer. There are usually links to the manufacturer's Web site, and often their driver library. Of course you could be much more impatient and guess. That is guess the URL of the company involved. If it's a Matrox graphics card, guess http://www.matrox.co.uk (as a Brit I always look for a Brit site first). No good, scrap the co.uk and slap in a dot com. If it has worked, your next step is usually looking under Support/Downloads or if they are organised, under Drivers. Identify the right drivers and download. You don't generally download files? Get used to it. Make very good friends with WinZip http://www.winzip.com/ as this will help you deal with compressed files in the world of MS Windows. Guessing didn't work, or worse still you've got the product's model number but no manufacturer. Call in the big boys. My first port of call is always Altavista. Although if I had the manufacturer's name Yahoo might be easier. A company name search in Yahoo under the 'Computers and Internet' section should bring up the right sort of links. If the company is big enough, using Altavista and its RealNames facility may work wonders. Altavista is definitely my first port of call if I have the model number only. This may retrieve the manufacturer's own adverts on the Web, IT shops (you'll get the manufacturer) or perhaps postings on lists where the model gets mentioned. Throw in the word 'driver' with the 'model' as your search terms and it may be Bingo! Quite often I find postings to lists etc where other people are asking about the same model. Hopefully someone else has provided them with the answer. If I'm getting really desperate I search IT related lists via somewhere like http://www.deja.com/. Someone somewhere has made the plea for those files before you. Incidentally I read somewhere about FIC codes. All electrical items have to have this code in the USA. Somewhere on the Web is a searchable database of these codes. This would help identify your mystery product. I may have got this wrong, but if someone has the URL please post it to the Free Pint Bar. OK so you have found the manufacturer, but where are those drivers? If the hardware is too old the drivers may be long gone. If the manufacturer is slow or small time they may not have any on the Web yet. The other week I was tracing drivers for an old printer. I ended up mailing the manufacturer in Japan, who then gave me a URL in Australia where the files where hidden. An example of an easy find. HP printers, Web site http://www.hp.com as you'd guess. Search 'hp' at AltaVista and drivers pops up in the first ten and Hewlett-Packard is the RealName. And when you get there, a lovely little icon for the Drivers Library on the home page and inside a searchable database for all their products. Now another approach. It is often just one or two files that you want, eg. thth225.exe. If luck is on your side and the product is pretty common then this one is easy. Again Altavista (or Hotbot) for me. Throw in the filename and see what comes back. If it is a hit, check out the site, decide on validity (manufacturer, university), look for a date, are these new drivers? Are they the right ones for your operating system? Are they for the Chinese version? Watch out! Another route of mine is to use the wonderful Fast FTP Search at http://ftpsearch.lycos.com/?form=medium. This mines its way through a vast number of FTP sites and will often find the file you want on a manufacturer's own FTP site, or mirrors of those sites closer to home. Systems teams the world over seem to put key files up for ease of access which can often be a bonus. If you see the term 'warez' in the file path name you would be wise to question the validity or authenticity. Success depends on a variety of things. Luck, the age of the hardware, the Web profile of the company involved and your perseverance. Those PC Sound, video and modem drivers all downloaded, installed correctly and work properly. The printer, yep that part of the NT CD-ROM is all over the Web. Well that's the finding. Just a tip on filing. If you are doing this a lot then create a download folder, and always create a sub-folder for the latest download. And to install them, save yourself some hassle with an install directory which can always be deleted after use. And keep that Virus checker ticking over. Happy Hunting. > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Richard Eskins is the Information Officer for the Department of Information and Communications at Manchester Metropolitan University. The Department's Web site is at http://www.mmu.ac.uk/h-ss/dic/, with Richard's pride and joy, his Search Tools page at http://www.mmu.ac.uk/h-ss/dic/main/search.htm. [Chat to the author now at the Bar http://www.freepint.co.uk/bar] > = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = THE LOWEST ".co.uk" DOMAIN NAME REGISTRATION JUST GOT LOWER NOW ONLY 25 POUNDS As of today, we are delighted to announce that UK domain name registrations now cost only 25 pounds plus VAT This INCLUDES all fees for 2 years (previous price 45 pounds) http://www.willco.co.uk/services/domreg.htm > = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = [wc445] FREE PINT BOOKSHELF http://www.freepint.co.uk/bookshelf "The Battle of the Portals" Reviewed by Phil Bradley I'm sure that many of you will be aware of what a portal is in Internet terms, but it is described by the authors as ' Websites that are used as launch pads for customers looking to surf the Web' and they go on to use AOL, Yahoo!, MSN and Excite as examples. This short (110 A3 pages) book attempts to inform the reader about portals in some depth, indicate their value and potential future developments. This is achieved in ten chapters, covering definitions of portals, the battle taking place between them, pocket portals and so on. The prose is easy to read, and the entire book took me two short train journeys to get through, so if you want a quick overview of portals you might want to take a look it ... [continued] ... read Phil's full review on the Web site at ... http://www.freepint.co.uk/bookshelf/battle.htm Find out about the other great Web-related books we're reading at http://www.freepint.co.uk/bookshelf. > = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = SEARCH THE FREE PINT SITE IN SECONDS http://www.freepint.co.uk/search We have substantially upgraded the search facility on the Free Pint Web site, with most searches now averaging two seconds! Remember, there are 88 articles on the Web site, as well as book reviews, discussions, links to useful resources. Why not give a search a go? > = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = FEATURE ARTICLE "Intranets and extranets" By Martin White, Intranet Focus Limited In researching the sites for this article I have made an intriguing discovery. Although without any doubt the number of intranets in use is increasing rapidly, the number of useful sites providing information about the deployment of intranets seems to be diminishing. At first I thought this to be somewhat strange, but on reflection I think that the answer can be found in the fact that intranet technology is only internet technology. The challenges of building an effective intranet site are not related to the use of technology. They are instead related to the problems of identifying the information that staff need to perform their regular tasks, and only then deciding how best to use an intranet judiciously to provide some or all of this information in an effective and efficient way. In effect every intranet will be different, and so reading about case studies, and even various design and management techniques, may be of little assistance in building an effective intranet. In this article I have included only those sites which seem to be updated on a regular basis, and which contain, in my view, quality resources. There are many other sites which were set up in 1997/98 which seem to have been frozen in time. With a few exceptions I have omitted these. If you feel I have missed your favourite site, do post it at the Free Pint Bar http://www.freepint.co.uk/bar. US sites I will begin with the two regular electronic journals. These are Intranet Design Magazine http://idm.internet.com and Internet Journal http://www.intranetjournal.com. The coverage of both is heavily biased towards the USA, and includes case studies, new products, and articles on current issues. There is nothing to choose between them. In addition there is the Intranet Journal, from McQueen Consulting, which I refer to later. Next come some sites which are just lists of other sites, and there is nothing wrong with that approach though occasionally I do wonder if anyone looks at the articles cited and edits out the truly dated/terrible ones. There are also usually broken links, and I do feel that site owners should take more care over checking their links, especially ones to articles in news magazines, which tend not to have a full archive up on the Web. Of the ones that seem to take at least some care are http://www.brint.com/Intranets.htm and the Intranet Research Center of CIO (Chief Information Officer) Magazine at http://www.cio.com/forums/intranet. The CIO site is really quite good, and in the July 1999 issue of CIO they selected their top 50 internet and top 50 intranet sites, and this is well worth reading. You can get there from this URL. The case studies are good. Then there is the Complete Intranet Resource guide at http://www.intragenics.com. which does give some good references, but with little or no annotation at all, which annoys me considerably. The other comment is that it isn't! A couple of years ago Carolyn Kotlas at the University of North Carolina developed a really good list of readings and resources on intranets, but this seems not to have been updated since mid-1998. Even so it is worth a look as some of the references cited do not appear elsewhere. Because of the age of the site there are also a number of broken links. http://www.unc.edu/cit/guides/irg-34.html. Let me move on to some sites which offer more in the way of substantive guidance on intranet design. Top of the list by a mile is a report published by the Mitre Corporation, a US R&D organisation. The report is entitled Improving the Usability of a Corporate Intranet, and is a detailed account of the way that Mitre reengineered its own intranet. You can download it as a pdf file from http://www.mitre.org/support/papers. Netscape used to publish an Intranet Executive briefing column, and the archive of these papers is still useful at http://home.netscape.com/comprod/columns/intranet/index.html. More recently the site has migrated into a Net Economy column at http://home.netscape.com/columns/neteconomy/index.html. At present there are no specific intranet articles, but a watching brief might may pay dividends. One of the pioneers of intranets was Dr. Steve Tellen when he was at Amdahl Corp., and his book, Intranet Organisation, is available on the web at http://www.iorg.com/intranetorg and though it dates from 1997 is still worth reading. There is also a rather unusual site produced by Manual 3 Inc which claims to be a definitive guide to intranet deployment. The text is well laid out, which also conceals how little there is of it, but it might get better http://www.manual3.com. Rather by accident I came across a sample intranet user satisfaction survey just a few days ago, so I will include it here without the chance to do more than glance over it, though first impressions were good. http://www.gausa.com/CustomerSat.com/intranet.html Finally, and by no means least, come two sites from people who have real experience on how to design intranets. First up is Dan Tricklin's site on how to write good documents for an intranet. A pleasingly high wisdom content, as you will see at http://www.gooddocuments.com. Also have a look at the site developed by Howard McQueen, of McQueen Consulting. Howard publishes Intranet Professional, and has a lot of expertise in this area, so bookmark http://www.mcq.com. UK sites Undoubtedly the best at present (though there is little competition!) is the Intranet Cafe from EPIC, a multimedia/web-design company based in Brighton. Some excellent advice, good links and great design can all be found at http://www.intranet-cafe.co.uk. There are two 'special interest groups' in the UK where intranet managers can exchange views and news. The Corporate Intranet Forum is a very tantalising site, as much of the information that (hopefully) the site offers is only for members. If you are not a member, don't bother. If you are then you probably already know that the site is http://www.corporate-intranet.com. Then there is the Intranet Group, a non-profit independent forum organised and administered by Momentus. Again there is not a great deal on the site, but we can always live in hope! Keep watch at http://www.momentus.com/TheIntranetGroup/pages/homemain.html. Lest you think that I have forgotten Intranet Communicator, apparently this publication is changing its title to Virtual Communicator, but no one has told the web site at http://www.intranet-communicator.com! Having sifted through all these sites I have decided that there is a gap in the market. This month I will be launching Intranet Focus Ltd., and if you care to look at http://www.intranetfocus.com over the next few months I hope that you will find that the site develops as a source of information and advice on intranets, extranets and ebusiness. Conferences Two conference organisers have taken the plunge and set up intranet-specific conferences. I took part in Intranets 99 in San Francisco in April, and learned a great deal from the papers and the coffee bar chat. Many of the papers can be downloaded from the site developed by Online Inc. at http://www.intranets99.com. In particular have a look at the papers from Microsoft, and from Tony Carrozza at Hewlett Packard who illustrates just what an expertise database should look like. Plans are already advanced for the Intranets 2000 conference in San Jose in February 2000, with initial details at http://www.intranets2001.com. In Europe Intranets International 2000 is being staged on 5-7 June 2000 in the Hague by Infonortics, and initial details can be found at http://www.infonortics.com/intranet/index.html. Extranets There are only a few specific extranet sites. On first inspection the Extranet Resource Centre looks promising at http://pw2.netcom.com/~bakerpub/extranet/tools.html, but many of the links are broken, so do not get too excited. Probably the best 'independent' site is the work of Kerstin Forsberg in Sweden. http://www.netg.se/~kerfor/extranet.htm is the URL for Extranets - a reference page, though in fact there are ten pages of citations. The site was last updated on 21 March 1999, and again some links are broken. The site offers an email update facility, but I have not tried this. http://www.extranet-strategist.com/index.html is a very good site sponsored by Aventail, a US software and services company, but do not be put off by this, as the site does offer some good white papers. CIO Magazine also has an extranet page http://www.cio.com/forums/intranet/extranet_sites.html, but the coverage is not as good as the intranet version. There is also a promising Belgian site at http://www.itworks.be but a working knowledge of Flemish/Dutch is an asset, though some of the information is in English. > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Martin White is Managing Director of Intranet Focus Ltd. From 1995 to 1999 he was a Principal Consultant with TFPL Ltd. www.tfpl.com where he was involved with a wide range of projects on intranet deployment, and also ran training courses and workshops. He was the lead author of the TFPL Guide to Intranet Management. Prior to joining TFPL he held senior management positions with a number of consulting companies, including International Data Corp. and Logica. Intranet Focus Ltd. www.intranetfocus.com offers consulting, research, training and publishing services on intranets, extranets and ebusiness, with particular current interests in electronic journals and data protection legislation. He can be contacted at martin.white@intranetfocus.com. [Chat to the author now at the Bar http://www.freepint.co.uk/bar] > = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = RECOMMEND A FRIEND TO FREE PINT Would you like us to send a courteous introduction about Free Pint to a friend or colleague of yours? If so then please enter their details at http://www.freepint.co.uk/reco.htm. We'll include the latest issue, and guarantee their details are not kept on file. > = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = FREE PINT FEEDBACK AND BAR This issue's feedback subject index: * Latest from the Free Pint Bar * RE: Web catalogue data protection enquiry (Free Pint No.44) * RE: Interview: Reva Basch, Super Searcher (Free Pint No.44) > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Subject: Latest from the Free Pint Bar From: William Hann, Managing Editor Well, what a place the Free Pint Bar is turning out to be. People post a research query in the morning, and the answer is there by the afternoon; fabulous. If you've got a tricky Web-based research query or other comment then this is the place to be. Even people new to the Web have posted queries, and I'm pleased to say that we haven't even had any bar brawls ... http://www.freepint.co.uk/bar Digest: Remember, to keep an eye on the Bar without having to visit, simply subscribe for the Digest - a free email sent to you every other day with all the latest postings. Send a blank email to digest@freepint.co.uk or sign up direct at http://www.freepint.co.uk/cgi-bin/webbbs/config.pl?subscribe. Archive: To keep the size of the message list down, we've set up an Archive where all postings older than 45 days are moved automatically to http://www.freepint.co.uk/cgi-bin/webbbs/archive/config.pl. We've also set the default display for the message list on the live Bar to one week, but you can change this simply by choosing "Set Preferences" from the main page. Alternatively, follow this link http://www.freepint.co.uk/cgi-bin/webbbs/config.pl?reconfigure. Summary of postings ------------------- It's taken a while to formulate (as always), but here is a quick summary of the latest major topics ... Discussion, help and site suggestions ------------------------------------- Free book - Net study skills http://www.freepint.co.uk/cgi-bin/webbbs/config.pl?read=475 A Free Pint subscriber offers his book for free Inflation over the centuries http://www.freepint.co.uk/cgi-bin/webbbs/config.pl?read=476 Sites which allow cross-relating from the past to costs today Donating computer equipment to charity http://www.freepint.co.uk/cgi-bin/webbbs/config.pl?read=464 How do you find companies willing to do this? US company information http://www.freepint.co.uk/cgi-bin/webbbs/config.pl?read=460 Finding data on US companies on the Web Search engine submission http://www.freepint.co.uk/cgi-bin/webbbs/config.pl?read=455 Discussion on the the most effective ways to do this Socio-economic categories http://www.freepint.co.uk/cgi-bin/webbbs/config.pl?read=451 Web sites which define these Setting up a Web site http://www.freepint.co.uk/cgi-bin/webbbs/config.pl?read=429 How do you register a name and find a host? Content/Design: an Information Design approach http://www.freepint.co.uk/cgi-bin/webbbs/config.pl?read=424 Some further thoughts on this earlier Bar topic Worldwide longitude & latitudes http://www.freepint.co.uk/cgi-bin/webbbs/config.pl?read=421 Web sites which give you these details for places around the world Website visitors http://www.freepint.co.uk/cgi-bin/webbbs/config.pl?read=402 Discussion and tips on monitoring and measuring site traffic Requests for information ------------------------ Bots and spiders http://www.freepint.co.uk/cgi-bin/webbbs/config.pl?read=490 What are they, what are they capable of, who uses them and what for? Historical share price data http://www.freepint.co.uk/cgi-bin/webbbs/config.pl?read=471 Where can one get access to raw data for UK companies UK Internet trademark agents http://www.freepint.co.uk/cgi-bin/webbbs/config.pl?read=457 Request for companies specialising in Internet trademarks Citation anaylsis, bibliometrics http://www.freepint.co.uk/cgi-bin/webbbs/config.pl?read=450 Anyone know of any software to do this? Data mining and research using the Web http://www.freepint.co.uk/cgi-bin/webbbs/config.pl?read=427 How do you search on specific topics, especially technology? Credit cards - penetration in Europe? http://www.freepint.co.uk/cgi-bin/webbbs/config.pl?read=423 Request for sources of information on numbers and usage Good quality affiliate programmes http://www.freepint.co.uk/cgi-bin/webbbs/config.pl?read=415 How does one find these? How do you access newsgroups? http://www.freepint.co.uk/cgi-bin/webbbs/config.pl?read=493 Details of accessing postings with or without a "feed" Share ownership sources http://www.freepint.co.uk/cgi-bin/webbbs/config.pl?read=536 Anyone know about the online share ownership source called GEO? Please note: responses may well have been posted to these questions by the time you read this, so please do check for the latest details by following the links above. > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Subject: RE: Web catalogue data protection enquiry (Free Pint No.44) From: Various Following the letter in the last issue from Doreen Broom regarding data protection in Scotland, we've had some super responses to her questions from readers. For the interest of all, the discussion points and respective responses are included here. In Free Pint No.44 Doreen Broom wrote: > I note you refer to the Data Protection Act applying in England and > Wales - it does in Scotland too. The only thing which differs in > Scotland is our implementation of the Freedom of Information Bill > which I believe is to be different. Under the English system - DPA > takes precedence over the Freedom of Information Act but whether > that will be the case in Scotland I am not quite sure. Martin Nail ----------- As far as I can see, the provisions about access to personal data under the draft bill are no different in Scotland and England. The consultation paper (which includes the draft bill) is online at http://www.homeoffice.gov.uk/foi/index.htm. Doreen Broom ------------ > While we are on this topic - I wrote to the Home Office Website > three months ago to ask if the Crime and Disorder Act affected > Scotland too - to date I have not received a reply. Martin Nail ----------- Some of it does and some of it doesn't. In many areas there are separate provsions for England and Wales on the one hand and Scotland on the other. The Act is on line at http://www.hmso.gov.uk/acts/acts1998/19980037.htm. Neil MacInnes ------------- The convention for any Act of Parliament in Westminster is that one of the last few paragraphs ('sections') defines 'Extent': to what countries of the UK the Act applies. This is normally stated as the general rule for the bulk of the Act, specifying any exceptions (e.g. 'this applies to England but sections 1,7,9, apply to Scotland too'). There is a site where all Westminster Acts, Bills, Regulations ('Statutory Instruments') and draft Regulations for the last few years are available in full (very handy if you want to access such stuff): The Stationery Office http://www.hmso.gov.uk/. It has a search facility. I tried "Crime and Disorder Act" and found a pointer to the Act, and worked to the page with the answer to your query. Extent of the Act: answer to the question is given at: http://www.hmso.gov.uk/acts/acts1998/80037--s.htm#end In brief: (1) This Act may be cited as the Crime and Disorder Act 1998 snip (4) Subject to subsections (5) to (12) below, this Act extends to England and Wales only snip Doreen Broom ------------ > My view is that any Act is an Act which affects the whole of the > UK - the only difference with the Crime and Disorder Act is that > the law in Scotland is slightly different to that of England and > Wales - can anyone clarify for me please? Martin Nail ----------- No, this isn't really true. I think I'm right in saying that unless stated otherwise an Act would be presumed to apply to the whole of the UK. However, it is very common for an Act to apply to just England and Wales or just to Scotland or to England, Wales and Scotland but not Northern Ireland or for different Sections to apply to different parts of the UK. An Act normally has its 'extent' specified in one of the its final Sections, labeled something like 'Short title, commencement and extent'. Section 121 of the Crime and Disorder Act 1998 is particularly complicated, but often it is something like Section 13(2) of the Trustee Delegation Act 1999 'This Act extends to England and Wales only'. Free Pint readers may like to know that the texts of Acts of Parliament since 1996 are available on the HMSO website at http://www.hmso.gov.uk/acts.htm. Bills are on the Stationery Office site http://www.parliament.the-stationery-office.co.uk/pa/pabills.htm although the FOI Bill isn't here as it is only a draft bill and hasn't been laid before Parliament. The Stationery Office's useful UK Official Documents page http://www.official-documents.co.uk/menu/uk.htm has links to both of these, and many other classes of official document. Neil MacInnes ------------- There are big differences between Scots and English (/Welsh/N.Irish) law, and not only on account of Acts. Main areas of difference are: legal/court/police procedures; personal/family law (e.g. most matters relating to children, marriage/seperation/divorce, death); housing and land. In many other legal subject areas, while the broad sweep of the laws may be similar, the differences are significant. (And that's before Holyrood has passed its first Act ;-). I have some knowledge of the differences between the 2 legislative areas, and also of the info resources at the new Scottish Parliament. And I'm happy to chip in my tuppence worth to the Free Pint Bar (from which I also drink). William Hann ------------ I would like to make special thanks for Martin and Neil for taking the time and trouble to give such complete answers to Doreen's questions. Special thanks again to: Martin Nail, Library and Information Commission http://www.lic.gov.uk/research/information_retrieval/index.html Neil MacInnes, Scotland Doreen Broom, Data Administrator, Scottish Borders Council > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Send your letter to feedback@freepint.co.uk or discuss it online at http://www.freepint.co.uk/bar > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Subject: RE: Interview: Reva Basch, Super Searcher (Free Pint No.44) From: M. Sullivan Date: Friday, 6th August 1999 Reva Basch and Marylaine Block are two of my idols. I've always thought Free Pint was great, but now I consider it indespensible! Terrific idea - interviews. Terrific choice of people. Terrific interview. Thank you. William Hann replies: Thank you for your wonderful feedback. All credit and kudos to Marylaine Block http://marylaine.com/ for a great interview. > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - DO YOU HAVE A QUESTION, COMMENT OR REPLY? Let us know your feedback or favourite site by sending an email to the Free Pint team now to feedback@freepint.co.uk or post your message at the Free Pint Bar http://www.freepint.co.uk/bar. [NOTE: Remember to include your name, title and company or organisation, and let us know if you wish your contact details to be withheld. Please note, if you write to us we may publish your letter in whole or part for the interest of our subscribers unless you request otherwise at the time of writing.] > = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Well, that's it for another two weeks. If you've enjoyed this issue then please let me know, either direct or at the Bar. 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